Thread: Religions

To my understanding, agnostic means you believe all things science can not explain are supernatural or something like that

Originally Posted by Raqubor

I am also a Nationalist, so if I lived in Germany I would put the Turks back on a plane and send them home if they don't want to integrate.

Hmm... I hope you won't take that wrongly, I don't hate people, but they have to make sacrifices the same way as the people around them if they want to live together. Learning the language of the country and tolerating each others religion is the minimum step.

This is the point in germany where everything is fokused @ WW2. If you criticise foreigner in germany, in 8 of 10 cases you will be sweared as a racist. So it happend to the autor of the book i told. If you criticise a religion, this happens too. This is silly and some kind of sad. In germany are some streams on the run, especially in university-circles, which could blow up next years. Nobody says something about people who live their religion in borders which are given by the government and/or the society.

@Cabry: agnostic means you that answer at the question 'is there a god?' >i don't know, it isn't able to prove< . Neither you say there is one nor you say there is none. In addition to that as an agnostic you say it is unknowable to get an answer (Y/N) for this question.

Originally Posted by GalakFyarr

sorry, but you are EITHER agnostic OR atheist both is impossible, as atheist implies you do not believe nor think there might be a superior being.

Agnostic means you don't deny the existence, but neither do you fully believe it

Nah that's wrong, as an atheist i deny religions and their believe in god. as an agnostic i say it is not provable to get an answer about the existence of god. So it isn't paradox.

Seriously, i know the answer cause gods are fantasy written down in bible and other basical, religional scripts. But maybe there is one, but you can't prove it... and this is agnostic.

Athiest. Nuff said.

Originally Posted by cabry

To my understanding, agnostic means you believe all things science can not explain are supernatural or something like that

Agnosticism has exited as far as the Roman world (as far as I know, my personal opinion is agnosticism has existed since the dawn of religion anyway). The kind of agnosticism you're referring to probably exists tho

Originally Posted by Fake? Ralle

@Cabry: agnostic means you that answer at the question 'is there a god?' >i don't know, it isn't able to prove< . Neither you say there is one nor you say there is none. In addition to that as an agnostic you say it is unknowable to get an answer (Y/N) for this question.


Nah that's wrong, as an atheist i deny religions and their believe in god. as an agnostic i say it is not provable to get an answer about the existence of god. So it isn't paradox.

Seriously, i know the answer cause gods are fantasy written down in bible and other basical, religional scripts. But maybe there is one, but you can't prove it... and this is agnostic.

Ya see, it's weird :p you got the definition of agnosticism right, but still you say a major contradiction.

The only fact you are even considering there MIGHT be something is agnosticism. An atheist will never ever think this. An atheist "believes" this is it, this life is all we get, once you're dead there's nothing after it. If there's only a tiny fraction of you thinking "but their MIGHT be something", then it's agnosticism

What I understand from what you say, you just don't believe any of the current major religions (christians, islamic etc.) have it right. but like you say yourself, you still have an agnostic vision that there might be something out there. Atheism doesn't just mean to disagree with the major religions

Hence, you're agnostic. not atheist

ok not going to be flaming or anything like that done here im just wanting your opinion in genaral

a few days ago it was the common wealth counties remembrance day 11/11/10 where they pay tribute to everyone whos died in battle e.g World War 1/2 etc here in the UK London always have ceremony with the queen and members of parliament but this got ignored and a couple of streets away this group called Muslims against crusades (formaly Islam4uk) burned a Poppy (Poppy is used as the flower of remembrance Details bellow) and Yelled "british soldiers burn in hell during the minute silence at 11 o'clock (details bellow) now this group want Sharia Law(details bellow) Used here in the UK but only 1,576,015 Muslims are here in the UK compared to our 59.000.000 people now my goverment has done nothing about this, people did nothing. should they be allowed to try and force there religion like this? or is it just me over reacting?



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Jeezy you are right to be mad... if they want their laws enforced then they need a political party... im not big on foreign politics...

Im american so i dont know how it works in the UK, all i know is parliment :S

My mind has been changed or well... informed by this thread. I am apparently an Agnostic not an athiest.