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    Hey all,

    Couldnt see a section for it so posting it here.

    Jibblenator is a power mad admin, banning one of my team mates for apparent multihack, without any evidence at all?

    You spec someone so that means they are hacking?
    Does it ever occur that people are better then your average joe player?
    People know how to play the game better than others, its that simple?
    Ever thought that the UAV was giving them away? No? Thought not.

    I questions jibble and I got some pathetic excuse of an answer, then told to shut up or he will shut me up, power mad admin or what?

    You didnt even take PB screens shots!

    Whats a matter, was he killing you?
    Funny you ban the people that arent cheating, let people with 200+ ping play on your server which makes it near impossible to kill them.

    If your going to ban someone get evidence, or do you just ban people if they are better or because you feel like it?

    Just saw that you are 14, kind of says it all really.

    Oh how I await your replies with baited breath

    Edit: - And you have just banned another one because he was kicking peoples backsides! Whats a matter, weather to hot for you?
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    Ok on behalf of Fps Overload, hey and welcome to the forum, thanks for the feedback let me explain things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobsickle View Post
    You spec someone so that means they are hacking?
    Usually yes, if they have been specced for a decent amount of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobsickle View Post
    Does it ever occur that people are better then your average joe player?
    Most of our admins are aware of the difference of good players and hackers, if it was multihack your friend had...It would be obvious! If it was just a wallhack, it takes more time and is less obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobsickle View Post
    People know how to play the game better than others, its that simple?
    True, many players know the maps back to front, but as i said, if he had specced long enough so he makes the right decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobsickle View Post
    I questions jibble and I got some pathetic excuse of an answer, then told to shut up or he will shut me up, power mad admin or what?
    He isnt been power mad by saying this, u shouldnt argue with admins...I say this to some players who argue with me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobsickle View Post
    Funny you ban the people that arent cheating, let people with 200+ ping play on your server which makes it near impossible to kill them.
    It would be unfair to kick/ban players with high ping, its not their fault they lag!

    Quote Originally Posted by Noobsickle View Post
    Just saw that you are 14, kind of says it all really.
    Still no need for comments like that, keep cool and we will sort this out. Tell your friend to come on the site and post a ban appeal...Click Here [to make a ban appeal] and we will disuss it.

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    He wont come here to be honest and on top of that he wasnt spec'ed that long, and spec'ing proves nothing.
    I know sphinx, 9 times out of 10 he walks around with his sight up so see's things pretty clearly and has great reactions, i have played with him for a few years and have never suspected him of cheating.
    If he is that certain, he should have PB screenshotted him, not just kicked.

    He then kicks another player because he has a decent positive score? Where is the fairness in that? If he were hacking, would he not have moved up the tables rapidly after he joined?

    Banning people because they are good players without proper evidence or proof is unfair on them players, is it?

    Also two people on the server one 24 - 12 and other 18 - 6, why they not being banned, I mean they have positive scores?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobsickle View Post
    He wont come here to be honest and on top of that he wasnt spec'ed that long, and spec'ing proves nothing.
    I know sphinx, 9 times out of 10 he walks around with his sight up so see's things pretty clearly and has great reactions, i have played with him for a few years and have never suspected him of cheating.
    If he is that certain, he should have PB screenshotted him, not just kicked.

    He then kicks another player because he has a decent positive score? Where is the fairness in that? If he were hacking, would he not have moved up the tables rapidly after he joined?

    Banning people because they are good players without proper evidence or proof is unfair on them players, is it?
    This is just your opinion, not the fact of the matter, u know this guy, u dont suspect anything? did you spec him? No jibble did...And he made the decision.
    And since when did spectating start proving nothing? Its a proven technique for finding hackers and banning them...
    Nothing will get done on this thread, tell sphinx to appeal Click Here. Comprende?



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    Right so you ban anyone with + scores who play well based on spec'ing?
    You dont actually gather any evidence?
    If your going to do a job, do it right or not at all tbh.
    The kid cannot got around banning people based on a 2 minute spec, because they are playing well and maybe killing him too much.
    If he were really that good, he would have spec'ed Maskednator and saw him get a spot on jump, turn corner slightly and kill through smoke.
    I have spec'ed him before during both public and match situations.
    Did you even get his GUID to PB BANS check it? No?

    Your telling me that spectating is 100% correct every time and never wrong? I mean honestly?
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    Hello, I think Agent has pretty much told you how it is, but here is my point of view.

    I'd just like to say I disagree rather strongly with Jibble been a "Power mad admin", I have never seen or heard of him acting power mad.

    All admins are told to spectate before they take action, and to spectate for a decent time.
    Yes, all of the admins know that some players are a lot better at the game, and know the game better than the average person.
    The UAV is generally always taken into consideration where ever possible, but from an admin's point of view, if there are repeated dodgy shots it generaly looks like hacks.

    I do not believe what Jibble said was power mad at all. I know and so do the other admins that it is sometimes rather stressful in the server.

    The FpsOverload Fun Server is not PunkBuster enabled, therefore a PB screenshot is out of the question.

    Like agent said, high ping players, its not their fault all of the time, but if the server is full, and starting to lag action may be taken.

    Its kinda hard to gather evidence on the server, as there is no Punkbuster options, so spectating is really the only option.

    And yes, please do not make comments on peoples age.

    At the end of the day, finding hackers in the FPS server is hard, due to the amount and no punkbuster, and we are all human, we make mistakes, it would suck if we didn't.

    Like agent said, if your friend wants to submit a ban appeal, he may.

    I hope this clears it up a little bit, I'm sorry that this has happened, if you friend is legit, but to an extent it is best to stay safe, generally the hackers won't appeal their bans, but move to another server.

    Blunks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobsickle View Post
    Right so you ban anyone with + scores who play well based on spec'ing?
    You dont actually gather any evidence?
    If your going to do a job, do it right or not at all tbh.
    The kid cannot got around banning people based on a 2 minute spec, because they are playing well and maybe killing him too much.
    If he were really that good, he would have spec'ed Maskednator and saw him get a spot on jump, turn corner slightly and kill through smoke.
    I have spec'ed him before during both public and match situations.
    Did you even get his GUID to PB BANS check it? No?

    Your telling me that spectating is 100% correct every time and never wrong? I mean honestly?
    Spectating is never 100% correct, but its the most efficent way of admining the server. We are NOT going to demo every player we suspect of hacking, post the demo here and discuss it...We get hundereds of hackers a month!
    As for the decision...I wasnt there, i didnt see him...So i cant comment on the ban itself, but stop arguing about, tell him to appeal and we will see what happens. End of.



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    May I ask why PB is turned off?
    If the server is that busy then surely turning PB on is a better option? Let PB do some of the leg work?
    He didn't spec him for all that long though, thats the thing.

    Let me put it this way, I see from your fpsdemo website (very nice work by the way) that you guys watch pro teams demo's often. If you did not know who these players are and they came on your server and did well, would you spec them and then ban them to, simply because they are good?

    Banning someone based on a method that is NEVER and will NEVER be 100% perfect is just wrong.

    Surely the comment "shut up or I will shut you up" is going overboard? Slightly power mad?

    I can understand banning people and trying to keep your server cheat free, but surely there should be some other form of evidence gather, other than spectating, like demo'ing?

    I apologise for my comments in regards to Jibbles age.
    Sphinx won't appeal, because well he wont keep his temper.
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    Punkbuster is off, due to the Windows 7, and punkbuster issues, that were quite large a little while ago. Now we don't get very many players with punkbuster on. So we've decided just to wait till Modern Warfare 2.

    Unfortunately mistakes are made, and there are not very many methods that are 100% perfect...

    Yes, the comment is rather harsh, but I wouldn't say Power mad.

    Demo'ing would be mad, the amount of players who get banned everyday, would fill our hardrives up. But we have tried in the past to record fishy ones, but sometimes, you forget.

    Shame he won't appeal
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    Hello fpsoverload. I have just beem banned from your funserver for apparently hacking. I should point out that this is not an appeal to have the ban overturned but merely me presenting my side of things so that Jibble may think twice before he bans someone from your public server again.

    Here is a link showing Jibbles message to me when he banned me http://screenshot.xfire.com/screensh...04796a9c14.png My xfire profile is here Lostdog - Screenshots

    We were playing Strike S&D... a map I know well and one that I have played a lot of competitive matches on. I ended up with a score of 40-11 or something like that when I got banned by Jibble. Apparently he saw me hacking whilst spectating me. He would have seen, if he was watching closely, that I happen to know a lot of tac nades. Something that you learn when you play a lot of competitive scrims. I also know where people tend to position themselves and what routes they take. You will see from my other xfire screenies that I am what I would regard as an above average player and that I have been playing COD4 since it came out. I have now played (at the time of writing this 1149 hours of COD4) most of which is in pcw, mixes or other competitive play.

    I was informed by Jibble that you do not take pb screenshots. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. If you had taken the time to check my GUID (the only one I have ever had for the game) or my I.P. on all of the anti-cheat databases you would not find a single ban on any of them.

    If, like my clan, you use your public server to try to recruit new members I would suggest that you rethink your policy of banning players that are better than the rest. All you will do is drive away the best players and be left with the dross.

    I will not be appealing my ban not because I am a cheat, but because I do not wish to play on your server. I am making this post to make you aware of how your banning policy will alienate the best players and leave you with a very low quality public server.
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